Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

03/22/2007 03:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY


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              SB  78-MOTOR VEHICLE WINDOW TINTING                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:33:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  announced the consideration  of SB 78.  He recapped                                                               
that  during   the  first  hearing  some   commercial  installers                                                               
expressed  concern that  adding  the lightest  available tint  to                                                               
factory glass  exceeds the limit  under the current law.  If that                                                               
is true  then the standards  should be  changed, but that  is the                                                               
subject of  another bill, he said.  He noted that according  to a                                                               
table  in   the  packets,  Alaska   has  the  same   standard  as                                                               
California,  New York,  Pennsylvania,  Rhode  Island and  several                                                               
other jurisdictions. He  said he would hazard a  guess that there                                                               
is  window film  used  in  at least  some  of  those states  that                                                               
doesn't break the law.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He asked  Senator Wielechowski if  he had a  conceptual amendment                                                               
to  address  the concern  about  the  level  of penalty  for  the                                                               
offense of installing window tinting.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:35:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   motioned  to   change  the   penalty  for                                                               
installing  window tinting  from a  criminal penalty  to a  civil                                                               
penalty.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH explained  that Title 28 is a  catchall statute that                                                               
sets out  penalties for  violations. Most  of the  violations are                                                               
misdemeanors punishable  by a year  in jail  and up to  a $10,000                                                               
fine, but  many of  the Title 28  provisions are  infractions. He                                                               
suggested that AS 28.35.235 is a  similar statute and it might be                                                               
a starting point for the conceptual amendment. In part it says:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 28.35.235.                                                                                                            
          (c) A person who violates this section is guilty                                                                      
     of  an infraction.  Upon  conviction,  the court  shall                                                                    
     impose a fine of not less  than $125, or, if the person                                                                    
     has been  previously convicted under this  section, the                                                                    
     court shall impose a fine of not less than $250. ...                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  stated a preference to  have the conceptual                                                               
amendment to follow that style.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  asked if he is  comfortable with the amount  of the                                                               
penalty.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said his thought is  to set the penalty at a                                                               
rate similar to the penalty for driving with tinted windows.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked Lt. Dial what  the penalty is for driving with                                                               
windows tinted above the allowable maximum.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LT. RODNEY Dial,  Alaska State Trooper, said it  is a correctable                                                               
offense, but  a $150  fine can be  assessed. The  Municipality of                                                               
Anchorage does assess a fine.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  restated  his  intention is  to  have  the                                                               
penalty  the same  as  the penalty  for  driving with  unlawfully                                                               
tinted windows.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH clarified the motion would read:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     A  person who  violates this  section is  guilty of  an                                                                    
     infraction. Upon  conviction, the court shall  impose a                                                                    
     fine of not less than $150,  or, if the person has been                                                                    
     previously  convicted  under  this section,  the  court                                                                    
     shall impose a fine of not less than $300.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:38:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  THERRIAULT noted  the change  from a  misdemeanor to  an                                                               
infraction and asked if it's for the driver or the installer.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH said  the  infraction is  for  the installer.  When                                                               
there  isn't an  associated  jail time  it's  sometimes called  a                                                               
special-class  misdemeanor,  but  the name  doesn't  matter.  The                                                               
issue is to give  the police a tool to try  to eliminate the very                                                               
dark tinting  that may  be installed  at some  shops. He  said he                                                               
isn't  sure that  it's  happening  in the  shops  that have  been                                                               
testifying.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  McGUIRE  commented,  "Despite  their  statement  on  the                                                               
record that it was."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH said  he  believes there  are  three categories  of                                                               
tinting. A demonstration would show  the very dark tint, then the                                                               
tint that  is probably just  slightly out of conformity  with the                                                               
70 percent standard, and then factory glass.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:40:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH,  hearing  and  seeing  no  further  discussion  or                                                               
objection, announced that Amendment 1 is adopted.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR McGUIRE referenced  a letter she received  from Auto Trim                                                               
Design  asking the  committee to  consider changing  the standard                                                               
from 30  percent to 35  percent. Acknowledging that she  isn't an                                                               
expert in this area, she asked what the distinction is.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked  Mr.  Boswood  or Mr.  Felt  to  give  their                                                               
perspective.                                                                                                                    
3:41:18 PM                                                                                                                    
WILLIAM  BOSWOOD, Auto  Trim  Design,  Fairbanks, explained  that                                                               
there  is no  30 percent;  what is  allowed is  70 percent.  That                                                               
means 70  percent light transmission  on front windows and  so 30                                                               
percent  of the  light  is  blocked. That  amount  of tint  isn't                                                               
visible; it only provides UV protection. He continued to say:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     35  percent tint  is twice  as dark  as 70  percent. It                                                                    
     cuts in half the amount  of light that 70 percent does.                                                                    
     35 percent tint is  considered a medium tint nationwide                                                                    
     in the  industry and it  is quite visible. You  can see                                                                    
     inside the  vehicle with 35  percent tint on  the front                                                                    
     doors.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW FELT  said the specific  request is to allow  tinting that                                                               
is in line with a majority  of other states. That is tinting down                                                               
to  at least  a  35  percent light  transmission  level on  front                                                               
windows and down to 20 percent on rear windows.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:44:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR McGUIRE said it's a good  point; the basis of this law is                                                               
a  regulation and  it's  been  a law  since  1994. She  suggested                                                               
installers  negotiate with  the  regulation  makers separate  and                                                               
distinct from this bill.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT restated Mr.  Boswood's suggestion to allow 35                                                               
percent light transmittance and said  he would like to propose an                                                               
amendment on behalf of the good citizens of Fairbanks.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked him to continue.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  motioned to  conceptually change  language in                                                               
paragraph  (2) on  line 8  to say  it is  a violation  if tinting                                                               
doesn't allow  at least 35  percent visible  light transmittance.                                                               
The level would not be established by regulation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:47:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  objected explaining  that the regulations  are very                                                               
complex and he  didn't want to amend them casually.  He asked for                                                               
other comments.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS  expressed  discomfort because  the  bill  holds                                                               
installers liable, but  it offers them no help if  the request is                                                               
in fact reasonable.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  said he understands  the concern but he  isn't sure                                                               
this is the time and place  to fix it. Nonetheless, he would hold                                                               
the  bill over  so the  committee could  resolve the  question of                                                               
whether to make adjustments to tinting levels or not.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS agreed  it is  a separate  question, but  if the                                                               
standard is unreasonable he would recommend holding bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT said  he understands  the  argument that  the                                                               
various  regulations  are  complex  so  he  was  withdrawing  his                                                               
conceptual  amendment. "If  there's any  time to  consider if  in                                                               
fact  we can  accommodate their  request, I'd  rather do  it that                                                               
way."                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:50:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  summarized Amendment 1 has  been adopted, Amendment                                                               
2 has  been withdrawn, and the  committee would take the  bill up                                                               
again when its comfort level is up where it belongs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  asked if  it  would  be  possible to  get  a                                                               
demonstration and Mr. Boswood agreed to provide samples.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR McGUIRE stated objection to  very black tinting, but said                                                               
she is interested  in knowing what percentage  does allow someone                                                               
to see inside a vehicle.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked Lt. Dial to comment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LT DIAL  said he has  checked a number  of factory cars  and most                                                               
are  acceptable  according to  current  regulations,  but if  the                                                               
standards  are  changed, some  cars  will  be in  violation  upon                                                               
leaving the  state. He suggested  that state standards  should be                                                               
posted.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR McGUIRE  stated an interest  in seeing what a  50 percent                                                               
standard looks like compared to a 70 percent standard.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  suggested she accompany Senator  Therriault when he                                                               
visits the tint shop                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH held SB 78 in committee.                                                                                           

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